sometimes you just have to reply to forum warriors....
too stronk!
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sometimes you just have to reply to forum warriors....
too stronk!
Not the first nor the last what will be too "stronk" for you.
It's simple, all those carebear morons should gtfo and they should just release MR instead of this system that will probably be bugged for another year. But nooooo......Quote:
Originally Posted by xXxAurorAxXx
Even with guild battles I still want to rpk lvl 30 chars with my fully geared overpowered broken lvl 100 character (when I got one) without going red. People shall suffer! How else am I going to KOS that guy that (keeps stealing my mobs) untill he quits huehue.
+1 Sniper
Rest of these noobs can gtfo as well
Worthless in life so to feel valuable you kill people in virtual environment where you will never gain anything.
Upon looking in the mirror you see sadness right in front of you
Pretty simple: declare war on everyone.
How many people will you argue with?
Everyone knows there is no PK in this game... you are just being stupid by replying every time.
P.S its not my mirror you should be worried about, its your own.
There should be such tittle for Care bears, or simply make that CareBearClub guild so we know to spare you when we spot you.
What I don't understand is that you would rather a system you have to pay ludicrous amounts of crones to keep up a buff for x amount of time - rather than a system that is free of charge and lets you kill absolutely everyone that is in a guild on sight all day, every day. If it works.
And you can bet that the cost on this server would be high.
The system works, except as you say the aoeing (not confirmed).
So I am for open unlimited pvp and opposed to a system limited to a buff and its duration. Yet, I am the carebear? Lol.
Well, if you are after a single target, turn AoE off. You can y'know. If you are too stoopid to do that, then you deserve to go red. How is this any different that Rohan:BF except that with MR you can indiscriminately kill anyone without penalty at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
Give it up. You ain't getting MR so you can run around rpking anyone you like without consequences. As for dropping stuff, how is it any different than killing mobs?
PvP isn't about simply running around killing noobs. It is about personal battle with other players that can have consequences if you lose or don't follow the rules. You fk up, you can lose and the consequences of that are, well, you know.
Personally I find the GvG solution pretty damn good and about time. How many of us have sat in the forums seeing people in R:BF complaining about people abusing MR and Venge? I'm not seeing that here at all.
They are just not really good at the game so they want the easy PvP-experience: kill players who are 20+ lower level
Care bear server....
Btw have you guys managed to get past 75?
I just disagree by resorting to outdated systems just for the sake of not willing to adapt to the new.
If there is an issue with the new system, it should be reported and not just cry havoc and request its removal and re-institution of the old.
This new system, if the aoe works, is just as good as it gets and plenty times better than resorting to a system like MR. The latter brings absolutely nothing to the table and is, in my opinion, contradictory to an even pvp environment.
It has got nothing to do with being a carebear or not.
Not willing to make a ticket and expecting something to be handled "just because", especially during a beta stage is just not reasonable and it's that what gets me worked up every time.
Coming up with something like: "GM's told me to go to forums" is utter bullshit. The only thing they will say is to " For community feedback and suggestions, feel free to post it on our forums!", which is exactly the feedback you can expect and will get.
If we go out of beta mode and this issue still persists, I'll just stand next to any of you and cry havoc along with you.
Until then, I'll continue to be against the re-implementation of both MR and HK's.
As to your lvl 70 question: yes I have, actually.
I took the liberty to send a ticket myself, mind you.
Progress will be posted.
You keep saying the game is in beta etc. but you have no idea what Open beta means....
they should never have released the game into Open beta if it had too many bugs but whatever YNK has too many stronk supporters.
Maybe I should start screen shotting the GM's comment just to counter your Utter bull Sh?
I don't know who speaks more BS you or the GMs, you guys can sit down and decide!
Btw I also like the change of your writing style, very British, are you practicing that before you move there or something? :D
To be fair, "closed" beta was just as "open" as it currently is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
This system was also not implemented during 'closed' beta and could therefor not be tested. We both know we cannot rely on the dev's to test it for us on their private test server - hence, it is up to us to do so and report.
Granted, it is not a fail-safe solution, considering the amount of time it gets for them to consider something as faulty. Hence the wait till end of 'open-beta'.
Regardless of that however, MR isn't the long-term solution to ensure end-game PvP.
They have to be lvl 30 at least man, I mean you can't slaughter them in the kindergarden yet, they gotta be able to walk at least to make it more fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fgehjss
Do YOU have any idea what Open Beta means?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
I have to ask this:
Why are you here during testing when you have no intention of actually testing but rather whining in these forums? Just sayin' if you can't deal with the bugs, why are you playing on a server that is IN TESTING?
You whine that there are so many bugs, so why are you not all over the ticket system letting them know what those bugs are? You know as well as anyone that the forums are ignored for anything requiring actual GM support. Lord knows yhou have been told enough times.
If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.
I think he was saying "+"20 levels lower http://www.webprime.ca/smilies/bootyshake.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
Open Beta means Initial Release
http://mmohuts.com/news/what-does-closed-beta-mean/
For your purpose before you continue your BS
FYI only .Quote:
Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
yeah this ones for you.... since clearly you missed so much!
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Open Beta – For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there aren’t any more “character wipes” after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
*face palm*
Keywords: almost, usually, but.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
Also, you lol at us for our lvls (i'm not that low anyway) - but why are you recruiting 'at least lvl 30-50 players for PvP'? I'm just wondering..
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Originally Posted by sunny245
Selective blindness / comprehension?Quote:
, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
Not sure why you guys are so lost without MR anyway.
MR is a guild skill. It was designed and meant for guild battles. It was never designed as a tool for player to terrorize or harass other players (which seems to be the only reason MR was being used for in Jainus)
MR has always been heavily abused for the sh!ts & giggles of bored high level players to randomly kill other players that never had any quarrel with them. As for the AOE argument - why should those with AOE be able to kill unintended targets without consequence? How is that fair to those they indiscriminately kill. Those that do this feel themselves entitles feel that ALL versions of Rohan should be allowed to do that. I disagree and applaud PW for coming up with a perfectly usable solution.
Well now you have Guild battle system that lets you indiscriminately kill your enemy guild without any penalties at all. BUT you think you are gonna be able to kill people who are not part of your guild battle without consequences, think again.
Personally I find the whole guild battle system perfect for guilds to work out their animosity on each other, while at the same time leaving those not involved with their guild politics totally out of it.
Perfectg. I really, REALLY hope they don't change that. People that don't like that, well; there is always JAINUS for those.
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almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out
Yeah I can say you are blind.... but more legit source than you!
Oh I doubt that very much. Mine comes from 35 years of software engineering experience. Where does yours come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
Here - Go educate yourself : http://istqbexamcertification.com/what-is-beta-testing/
Don't try and teach grandpa how to suck eggs ;)
Software testing is completely different than Game testing but nice try.... so much for that "35 year experience"
http://i63.tinypic.com/ih3bx3.jpg Under the motto: if you don't want to kill them, recruit them. GG, train them well.
The hate is real <3
Holy sh!t! You actually believe that? What do they teach kids in school these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
Sorry son, but you have just shot any possible credibility you had in the foot with that statement.
I'm not gonna try and teach you the software release process in some gaming forum. Go take a freaking course before posting stupid statements like that again.
just LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix
I was actually starting to think you were a grown up but never mind, I was wrong!
http://aussiememes.com.au/media/crea...mm-kiddies.jpg
Petty actions receive petty reactions.
No sunny, please, do try and explain the difference between software release process and an MMO game release process. I am really curious to see how you differentiate them. Keep in mind the software distribution channels available to a publisher and is customers. I really just HAVE to see how deep you can shove your foot into your mouth.
I don't know software engineer, why don't you explain it in your own words specially form that 35 years of experience?
I am not the one comparing software testing with a game testing.
You must be an idiot to compare a program made in Visual studio vs a program created in a game Engine. If you know what that even means, I think not.
^ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by xXxAurorAxXx
I'm pretty sure everyone is the same 'cuz why else you'd be at Rohan? They should prolly implement like garden patches or smth so these ppl who don't want to pvp can go water their plants and watch the rest of us pvp.
Um, what do you think the game engine is created in? BASIC or COBOL? Rohan client and map server is created in Visual C++.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
Game testing IS software testing. What do you think the game is made of? Marshmallows? Do you even know what software is (hint -- it's not just the .exe and dll files)? Keerist!
Yeah but you do not compare it with a software testing phase dumb ass.
Your comparing Car driving license test vs a truck one.... ofc they are both auto, as wheels etc. Both tests are different, there are so many things that are equal/same but are completely different in small ways but never mind, you are not even discussing whats on topic now, just trying so hard to be right.
But you are such a nerd about it, we went from comparing beta phases to what a software is made up of .exe or dll, it just shows how much of you got left in you about this topic.
I admit, I am just a designer, not a geek <3 and be happy at that point.
Have a good day arguing with yourself to think if you won or lost.
Use the guild battle system. If I am grinding/leveling I don't need some random yahoo high on MR killing me so I can't even venge him! If I want to get into pvp I will go piss of some guild and get them to register a battle with me and have at with them without having to dump bazillions of crones on MR (seriously -- look at the cost of the guild skills 8O Yikes!). Why would I need MR? Why would anybody need MR except to RPK people without consequences?Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyIntegra666
As I psoted before, Rohan: BF is still there along with its MR abuse and RPK fest. Maybe a lot of people will go back there (or out to whatever pserver is open this week)
You maybe misread it or I don't know what, but the guild system isn't working properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
Second why are you so scared of dying, if you get killed get the higher lvls in your guild to venge and that's how you get pvp. Plus, everyone is still lvling there wouldn't be much PKing at the moment.
Third, it's getting really annoying that you keep repeating people should leave Origins if they don't share YOUR opinion. As far as I see there are just 3 ppl here in this thread opposing to MR, everyone else is up for it. So maybe you should stop pointing us to the RBF.
Opposed to MR =/= opposed to PvP.
Hmm, I seem to remember you being the one trying to tell me that game beta testing is not the same as software beta testing. I asked you to show me the difference. You are trying tell me you know better than I do what software beta testing means (and yes Rohan IS software. Or do you think it is hardware?). it does not matter what tools are used to derive that software whether it is Visual C++ (this was used to create both the Rohan and software client), or the various tools used to create the animation maps, textures, meshes, collision maps and even documentation. Everything output from that - from the dlls & exes to the pictures that are displayed in the loader is SOFTWARE. And all of that is subject to the testing cycles (unit, system/integration. alpha, beta, acceptance) all software gets (unless you are a piss poor software developer that likes fixing bugs for free after the product releases).Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny245
You mistake my motives here. I am looking at Rohan: Origin as a Rohan server that is more balanced between PvP and PvE than RBF is. I am not saying I against PVP. I am saying I am against PVP that has no consequences for involving those folks that do not want to PVP with you. Not everyone wants to PvP with you so why should you be allowed to kill them in the middle of whatever they are doing just to give you some jollies? Is it fair to them? Perhaps you think is is fair to you. After all you don't care that it costs them crones to get back to where they were and it is not YOUR time being wasted on 2-hour stones & 1-hr scrolls. RBF allows this to happen and has huge amounts of MR and venge abuse because of it. There are a lot here that like that kind of thing. There are a lot that don't. I for one am not interested in turning RO into another RBF because I see PWI has made a lot of positive changes here that addresses a lot of RBF's shortcomings. RBF has done the "Create a server, make it similar, but different to the first servers, watch it fail" thikng over and over and failed every time. To those that think it should be open season on anybody simply because killing them relieves your boredom or you get kicks at seeing them rage at you, well RBF is already set up to cater to that playing style. I am pushing for RO to be more balanced in its catering to PvP AND PvE. Too bad you don't see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyIntegra666
The guild battle system was introduced less than a week ago. It will have bugs. Give it a freaking chance! To get bugs fixed they have to be reported (I am feeling like a broken record with that). I am 100% opposed to to MR because I see it as a means of abuse. I see the guild battle system as a means of giving those who are in warring guilds a wqay to PK each other to their heart's content while leafing those that would rather not engage with you out of it. It is a damn good compromise for everyone involved. But like I said if it doesn't work, report to the GMs what about it is not working. That is why they are in beta testing. To get these problems fixed before they lock it down as done.
There is nothing carebear about it. I am all for guild-level pvp. Guilds warring everywhere is fun as hell. Guilds being able to war with each other I see as a very positive thing. Not everyone here wants to be in your war getting killed because they happen to be pals with someone in your enemy guild. I feel youy should get consequences (- the few possible you have) for being an ass. Guilds, and unguilded players NOT wanting to war with others (and there are MANY of those) get to be left alone to plant flowers in their gardens.
Think about it a sec. You have a KOS guild and they KOS you. Register/accept your battle and have at them without having to worry about popping MR (and popping it again when the GM gets ganked). Why is that not a good thing for everyone involved - and not just those that don't want to pvp with you (not everyone will)? Is it not working right? Tell the GMs so they can fix it or explain tyo yuo why it shouldn't be fixed!
Dying doesn't bother me. Lord knows I did enough in rohan over the years. But getting rpked when you are in the middle of nowhere here with no way of rezzing back to where you were is a pain in the ass. You get killed by some rpking yahoo means youi rez vback at your bind and have to pay crones/walk to get back to your leveling/farming. It is a nuisance.
^ this ^Quote:
Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix
though the programmer in me would write it as
Opposed to MR != opposed to PvP
Yes I'm for MR and pking and pvp. I got pk-ed as well, never cried about it, just gave me the reason to lvl and gear up, which for now I don't have.
You are talking about MR like it's something vile, MR didn't kill RBF other things did. RBF has stayed alive for longer than anyone of us thought it will because of the pvp system.
I'm def not mistaking your motives, you're motive here is just to shut down everyone who disagrees with you, and in a very subjective way if I may notice, judging from the posts you keep quoting.
While I posted once in this thread, you humped my post to "explain your opinion" for the 10th time. All I see here is you derailing and spamming this tread with your "opinions" so I'm just gonna let you keep doing that, 'cuz you seem to be scared of something.