Making me SMILE :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Karazy1337
You got my voted!!
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Making me SMILE :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Karazy1337
You got my voted!!
Predictable :')
http://i.imgur.com/Fu0oRDy.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky1991
This is why I have trust issues. ;P Lol, No worries man, you do you. I give props to EP for accurately predicting you weren't going to do it. xD
What I mean is I'm gonna log when I get time just to show you what I'm talking about but I'm not gonna play like I used to do!
Why? cuz it's a broken game again...
Ok then, that's much better! I hope to hear from you later, when you have more time. I hope you're enjoying your holidays so far!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky1991
Semi Active!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky1991
Would say "Inactive" since templars are what they are now... I don't have fun anymore playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2mad
Doesnt matter the only solution is to fix int and str dekans so we can remove the gaping stat inflation driven problem called vit dekans.
LOL? talking about stats inflation about vit dekans? ahahahah... you should really look at templars.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
Templars a nesesary evil for now. Its easier to fix all other classes and know for now templars will still be able to kill everything then nerf the stable dps and find out that our new guards are not strong enough to kill a priest. Which then results in a bunch of bandaid style fixes to try and get pvp balanced. Just put templars on the side for now and fix all other classes first.
Like if people got their reading glasses out they would see that my str dekan would wreck **** and has the potential to be the next stable DPS.
This patch is nerf all in game class exclusive temp and Noir!! Temp till get benefit!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky1991
@Karazy!
You must know something about new patches coming? Ofc you do!
So, tell us if it's gonna be a pile of crap for dekans or it's gonna be something useful to compensate the 50% damage we lost in the last patch...
If it's not something good or something that will make us better, say it now, we just gonna stop waiting and quit and never come back!
Thanks!
from all post i read,you guys just funny icey idk whats ur butthurt about vit dekans i will just skip it,first some people say temp and noir get most nerf are u sure about it before when i were +10 lvl,was doing 150k dffs so had chance to kill templars which has 300k hp so templar was doing 40k damage or noirs was doing 20-30k damage super atack speed regular damage* and my 150k damage has 17 sec cd which is let u heal urself so easy so dekans are hard to play been long just skip this,first of all i dont understand why people cry about dekans noir and rumir worst bull**** atm lol that noir stuns 20 sec or 30 sec? lmao also that amazing sd on rumir like they can tank whole server hahaha that 6 sec cd full heal skill,this ****s need to fix first and i back to dekans templars or other people has same hp still like i told u 300k hp and how u bet kill 300k hp person with 40k damage skill which has 10 sec cd hahahahah i have been playing this game for really really long time and got enough experience of everything,atm regular damage all classes way better than all other classes so stop crying im a vit dekan and im not crying about damage i mean why is it necessary to keep a useless class in this game if you gonna push it this far well i just wait last patch and will comment after it,this is my last post about discussion,lets see karazy and stuff will do a good job i hope.
you can log my dekan and try check at pvp,wont be a problem for me,i just wanna see that smile on your face when you pvp with my char if you can kill any person which has same gear with me,is all yours :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Karazy1337
Basically, how would you want your fix?
As I gather now, you want everything fixed first and only then dekans. So you can sit on your throne a little while longer.
In other words, you don't actually care about balancing - as long as it doesn't make dekans any weaker.
Now, as I understood.. this "balancing" (i'll leave it in the midst in how far it will actually make a difference in the end), is happening in several patches. Therefore, classes will continue to be this unbalanced until they all have been patched. Meaning, some classes getting a nerf now - might just end up being good enough after the rest had got their nerfs as well.
I'm just going on on a hunch here, but that's how normal balancing patches work.
We can all agree that the classes will not suddenly, after 8 years, be 100% balanced or even 90% balanced. However, some more class diversity and meaning to both these classes and pvp in general would be nice.
The fact that people actually have 300k hp, is everything that's wrong here. The fact that 40k is considered low, is what is wrong.
The enormous gap between IM and non-IM players, is what is wrong.
Appart from their crazy scaling blunt mastery - templars aren't unfixedly unbalanced. Take away blunt mastery scale and you have a rather well rounded class that's still heftily good at what it does. Debuffable reflect and all that jazz isn't a bad change at all.
What IS wrong, however, is the extreme scaling of stats, hp and "pure" melee/defense compared to "inflated", which is NOT limited to templars only. Why would it be a good idea for anyone to hit over idk? 3-5-10k main stat and still having a few k in other stats?
Str dekan could get the highest melee of the classes, yet it did/does the lowest dps. Where's the logic in that?
Basics of MMO:
- high dmg = low defense
- low dmg = high defense and/or support (CC / healing / buffing)
- good dmg = good defense
Why would it be a good idea to have a vit class (high defense equals high hp in rohan) doing so much spike damage in the first place?
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I started reading but its just so many words all jumbled into 1 block and I lost my place and I gave up.Quote:
Originally Posted by YuMadBro
I will say tho I hate vit dekans and its a ****ty design. If vit dekans didnt exist the dekan race woulda been fixed a long long long long long ass time ago which is what should have happened in the first place.
Step 1: Delete SS and Blunt mastery from the game. INT builds were a bandaid fix to a class that was broken a long long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
How cute :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pinwi11
I really hate temps... hell vit dekans ^^
I have an Idea. Dont Play Dekans :D
thats like telling this fistonab to not play dhan. He always comes backQuote:
Originally Posted by kain3663
How about fixing both Dekans and Temps? Better solution ill say >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by kain3663
Or people stop playing like a bunch of derps and actually use teamwork and tactics to get the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
Kinda funny how for the longest time you justified the need for OP blunt mastery because of vit dekans being how they were, and now you are on to priests lol.
I want my old dragon sage back ( wffs 4 life )
so what? everyone play a fkin templar? then just delete all the other fkin classes and just make a templar game... non sense...Quote:
Originally Posted by kain3663
Go fish with it man, you might catch a really nice fishy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marquiz
I doubt it since everybody knows priest is the hardest thing to kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gank83
*Cough* Rumir *Cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
Zzzz wanna pvp with my dekan.. but its better to stay savezone and watch others like temp vs temp... afff well time to play a **** temp again =_=
Tell that to the people who wanted to play:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkTuramus
Scouts
psy-wiz
int-locks
str-dekan
int-dekan
berserker pre-changes
savage pre-changes
guardian pre-changes
agi-dhan pre-changes
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well i just follow karazy and irene words,they said everybody will have a chance in pvp,but there is noway skill based classes can beat regular damage based classes,one has cd others you can do 5 hit in 1 sec thats what im talking about,we always talking about too much all stat and op items,we never talk about insane atack speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix
Why are all you people complaining about classes that did not have their balance patch yet? Everyone knows by now that pretty much every class will get a rework so why not wait till it's here and then make drama about the changes rather than speculating about hot air beforehand?
The whole point of this patch and the comming patches seems to be to make every class viable and making pvp about PARTYS with variating classes (self buffed but with party auras) to counter/fight eachother.
The only thing I could complain about is that they did not patch everything at once but smaller patches, which is presumable to test the effect of one of their patches first before they nuke the server with one huge patch that (might) turn out to be a total failure and give rohan the final blow.
Instead of complaining about how sh1t your current class is or about how you want to play an OP class, just wait and see what the next patches bring. Gather information about bugs and supply the GM's with that info to fix these things as soon as possible.
Everyone has been crying (including me) for years to balance rohan, now they finally started doing so and everyone loses their minds.....Just chill, watch what the updates bring, play the class you ENJOY playing (almost all of them will change anyway) and most of all use your frigging brains for once and think before you spread a storm of nonsense on the forums.
Dragon sages and esp. sepa dekans have insane attack speed - I don't see them anywhere, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by YuMadBro
Attack speed is nothing with the aforementioned damages, which are a direct result of all attack/OP items. If you, however combine the two items you go from crazy OP to borderline OP.
Still, I don't know why ppl think it's normal for a class (templar) to hit 30-40k regular damage with like 50-60% attack speed... this means like 100k damage each second... fkin ridiculous
While another class (dragon knight) only hit 100k damage in 10-15 seconds... now 40k in 10-15 seconds with new patch... that's bullsh1t
The ratio must be seriously reviewed!
yeah 6k damage with my wffs on a guardian ,,, lol and my is skill +7 and have 120k hp LOL
Yes. For now I'm just glad they buffed a couple weaker classes, made a universal change to heroic power that will slow the pace of the game down a bit, and seem to be moving in a direction of diverse parties vs a couple OP classes and buffers at safe zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
having 120k hp as a lvl 110+ vit dekan is.....really bad, you should have at least 400k+ lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkTuramus
Exactly and more patches are comming, the whole discussion about wffs/dffs is pointless because dekans haven't had their balance patch yet and whatever info you post here, by the time the koreans will get it, they probably already implemented their dekan patch there lel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gank83
depends if he's self buffed or fully buffed, self buffed i have around 200k hp, with full buffs ye around 4xxk hpQuote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
Even selfbuffed 120k is very poor hp for that lvl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky1991